It was Republican candidate and former president Donald Trump's trade war with China and the name-calling over Covid-19 that gave new life to an idea first proposed by Japan in the early 2000s. The foreign ministers of the formalised four-democracies diplomatic grouping first met (virtually) during the Trump presidency. If elected, Trump will show more interest in Quad than NATO, but a lot will be determined by what other changes he brings to the Biden foreign policy, including on Ukraine. A Kamala Harris win will see more continuity. Even so, if elected, she may want to put her own stamp on the grouping. As such, this year's meeting of foreign ministers seemed to be mainly a holding operation. The announcements covered a space-based climate warning system in Mauritius, and an undersea digital Cable Connectivity and Resilience Centre in Australia, built on initiatives launched at last year's meetings. Tellingly, there was no mention of the Indo-Pacific Economic Partnership, a new US trade policy launched by Biden last year ahead of the Hiroshima Quad summit, which had given rise to speculation of a ‘Quad Plus’ economic grouping.